well starting a new 20g tank

as title wil be over filtered and have sand substrate

but what fish ?

looking at a comunity with plenty of colours but not tiny fish any ideas and no live bearers

i am liking these as

rams
neon gouramis
cockatoo apisto
cories
plec's


but not too sure if i can have all these in one tank

will keep reading up as i go along also depends whats in my lfs as always too impatient to wait lol

will be about a week befor i get to add fish as i will be stealin my nans filter media and adding it to mine lol

What type of plec are you thinking of kbekll?

I have 2 BN's and Panda corys and they are great little fish.

If you are thinking of blue rams, they need to go in an established tank - the Bolivian ram is a bit more hardy than the blues, and would do well in a tank with the both BN's and the pandas too.

I think the gouramis are a peaceful fish aren't they?, but I think they need a lot of planting (not sure on that).

As for the apisto, I know nothing about them at all, so dont know their preferences

You're going to have a bit of fun planning all this

thinking the blue phantom or green phantom pleco really like those (but am border line with the tank )

it was the bovie's lol

yes will be having fun trying to decide

i have 4 lfs to go see tomorrow including the maidenhead aquatics down here

Have you had a look at a shell dweller species tank? Maybe with a couple of plecs - fancy bristlenose (look at L182/3? or ancistrus claro?)

If you want a community how about a Pair of Rams, Rummy Nose Tetras - 10 or so, 6 cories - Panda are lovely and a 'feature' plec, maybe with a trio of non-annual killifish as top dwellers.

IMO 20g is too small for a Blue or Green Phantom - they get to about 8" and are surprisingly bulky for a 'pretty' plec.

yes they are a bit on the big side

did look at a l333 tho but think i am down on size with that one as well will have to look see what i see tomorrow

might put some baby oscars in it


























wish i could have seen your face lol

LOL - I knew you HAD to be joking!!!

You could have a look at L129 they stay a little smaller.

found some cute little pitbull plecos today they are so cute

i keep going into these shops and want to part with cash lol

saw a snowball today but again grows a bit big for the tank

and then a candy striped and following that a zebra pleco

didnt see ant 129's tho but the one i think i might go for is the l316 was in little tank all on his own lol

i think i need a shop just for pleco's so i can find the one i want lol

There's something about plecs isn't there that just makes you want to take them home!

Yep, every single one of em!!! (If I could only fill my cellar with water LOL)

yes its asif they look at you and beg and plead even more so when they are in wrong size tanks or with the wrong type of fish

you would love some of the shops down here as they have such a mutiple array in each shop

dont think i have come across the same breed in any of the shops save the common or the otto

Cool... I'm starting to look at re-building my plec collection slowly.

Have you seen anything other than plecs that you will be wanting?

found loads but most just aint suitable or not comuntity fish

not sure on corries or loach like the chain loach and the kuhli loach and the zebra loach

green tiger barbs

Pseudomugil Rainbow

Golden pheasant panchax

green fire tetra

red phantom tetra

Prehistoric Dragon Goby

Snakeskin Barb

Scarlet Gem Badis


Ruby Red Pencilfish

these are what have taken my fancy today so will have to see what each one needs and obviously some are too big but they are nice and some wont go together

Dragon Goby are brackish if I remember right.

Gold Panchax are lovely friendly fish.

You could have Khulis and Corys.

hi tank sounds cool.

Not sure if the apis and the rams will be friends...cockatoos will take the base of the tank and can breed v easily. Rams may interfere with them..but cant say for sure.

Cockatoos are ace!!

chain loaches are great - Ive got 4 and they are really active in the tank. Got worried the other day when I could only see one of them - searched everywhere and couldnt see any sign of the others. Next morning there they all were swimming about together large as life. Still dont know where they were hiding!

they burrow into the substrate

well they did a good job of it because I was convinced they had died and was cursing the fact I had been extravagant and spent £8 per fish

well yes chains are nice fishes and i would have been worried lol

they are £4 each down here lol

still not fully decided on what fish yet

will just have to surprise you lol

looking forward to seeing what you decide on kbekl





dekker