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PostSubject: neons...   neons... Icon_minitimeMon Dec 31, 2007 3:34 am

i just red on some other site that a bloke bought six neons for his biorb 30 and three died. he rekons its coz some neons are ordered in their tons straight out the wild and are squirted with cyanide to stun em. i just bought 8 and i gotta feelin im gonna need to watch em with an extra eye Shocked any 1 know how true this is...

and by the way any 1 got any ideas what fish i can mix with em, (if they liv)

cheers Smile
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PostSubject: Re: neons...   neons... Icon_minitimeMon Dec 31, 2007 3:42 am

Hiya frfnf (that's a shorter version!!) That's gross!! I had never really thought of fiosh being caught in the wild and going through all that before they get to the shops!

It's surprosing that any of them survive isn't it??

As for what will go with them, I am sure someone will help you out with that soon.
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PostSubject: Re: neons...   neons... Icon_minitimeMon Dec 31, 2007 3:48 am

apparently at least half die... pale
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PostSubject: Re: neons...   neons... Icon_minitimeMon Dec 31, 2007 3:54 am

fish r freinds not food wrote:
i just red on some other site that a bloke bought six neons for his biorb 30 and three died. he rekons its coz some neons are ordered in their tons straight out the wild and are squirted with cyanide to stun em. i just bought 8 and i gotta feelin im gonna need to watch em with an extra eye Shocked any 1 know how true this is...

and by the way any 1 got any ideas what fish i can mix with em, (if they liv)

cheers Smile

Hello fish are friends, and a big WELCOME to the forum. Thanks for joining and we hope you like it here Very Happy Very Happy

I hadn't heard the story about the cyanide, but it would not surprise me to be honest. I think the way the catching of live tropical fish are caught and dealt with is very poorly scrutinised and as charley said it is surprising that any of them survive the experience.

I suppose the only good thing is that at least when decent fishkeepers buy them they get a good home, and I hope yours do well.

As for what you can mix them with, a lot of that depends on what sort of tank you have - what dimensions and volume it holds, and what your preference is regarding fish.

They are a nice little fish that do well in a community tank. I have mine happily mixing in wirth rasboras, cherry barbs, guppies, plattys and BN's.

Any of those interest you?
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PostSubject: Re: neons...   neons... Icon_minitimeMon Dec 31, 2007 4:00 am

thanks ill check up on it
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PostSubject: Re: neons...   neons... Icon_minitimeMon Dec 31, 2007 4:18 am

you will probabyl find that at least 90% of the fish trade in the uk is captive bred but their will be 10% that is wild


Cyanide fishing is worth a read tho

you will probably find that they died due to the water chemistry in the tank was it new by any chance ?


neons in my tank have got along with platies, guppies, endlers, clown loach, otto's and pleco's they are a pritty versitile fish
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PostSubject: Re: neons...   neons... Icon_minitimeMon Dec 31, 2007 4:22 am

not sure how new da biorb was but he was pritty experienced in the art of fish keeping but possible
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PostSubject: Re: neons...   neons... Icon_minitimeMon Dec 31, 2007 4:28 am

not just his tank could have been a poor batch as in all living things we dont know how well they have been kept in the lfs's or how the were shiped
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PostSubject: Re: neons...   neons... Icon_minitimeMon Dec 31, 2007 4:29 am

What size tank do you have fishrfriends? Have you any ideas what sort of fish you may get?
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PostSubject: Re: neons...   neons... Icon_minitimeMon Dec 31, 2007 4:34 am

ive got a rekord 60 (abot 54 liters) got 3 sukers only small 1s, 8 neons and quite a few plants

i like the look of platys...

my main tank is a aqua one 620T but thats dominated with goldfish. when i get round to it ill upload some pics. cheers Cool
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PostSubject: Re: neons...   neons... Icon_minitimeMon Dec 31, 2007 4:38 am

Which suckers ? otto's if so the do prefer to be in bigger groups if not tell me to shut up lol

i have the rekford 70
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PostSubject: Re: neons...   neons... Icon_minitimeMon Dec 31, 2007 5:20 am

Well i dont know if anyone's seen how they catch Oto's in the wild?

They just go into the swamps and net thousands at a time, then stick em all in a big bag and throw the bag on the wagon, how many survive i have no idea, but my guess is that most ottos are wild caught as they are in abundance.
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PostSubject: Re: neons...   neons... Icon_minitimeMon Dec 31, 2007 5:34 am

well kbekl the breed i think i have is: Midget sucker mouth catfish,

try this site i just found gr8 for findin breeds and tank mates:

http://www.tropicalfish4u.co.uk/
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PostSubject: Re: neons...   neons... Icon_minitimeMon Dec 31, 2007 5:36 am

Think fish are a good site for this and also gives great understanding of the fish but dont rely on their calculation for the tank it is way out, but is really good for highlighting bad points with fish in a comunity
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PostSubject: Re: neons...   neons... Icon_minitimeTue Jan 01, 2008 12:53 am

finaly got some pics:

coldwater (goldfish)

neons... Goldfish

tropical:

neons... Tropical-neons

neons... Tropical

hope i got this whole pics thing right... bounce
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PostSubject: Re: neons...   neons... Icon_minitimeTue Jan 01, 2008 12:59 am

nice pics maybe add them too the your set ups section
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PostSubject: Re: neons...   neons... Icon_minitimeTue Jan 01, 2008 1:03 am

gd idea, Smile
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PostSubject: Re: neons...   neons... Icon_minitimeTue Jan 01, 2008 1:07 am

may resize them using photobucket (if that is what ur using)
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PostSubject: Re: neons...   neons... Icon_minitimeTue Jan 01, 2008 1:08 am

yh
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PostSubject: Re: neons...   neons... Icon_minitimeTue Jan 01, 2008 1:10 am

it just stops the need to scroll across the page
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PostSubject: Re: neons...   neons... Icon_minitimeTue Jan 01, 2008 2:05 am

any 1 know y neons are always on the bottom of the tank. i supose its naturall behavior im thinking of taking my main ornament out and swapping it for more plants and a cave like decoration for them to hide in... Rolling Eyes
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PostSubject: Re: neons...   neons... Icon_minitimeTue Jan 01, 2008 2:41 am

unsure but mine tend to be every where in the little tank
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PostSubject: Re: neons...   neons... Icon_minitimeTue Jan 01, 2008 3:25 am

fish r freinds not food wrote:
any 1 know y neons are always on the bottom of the tank. i supose its naturall behavior im thinking of taking my main ornament out and swapping it for more plants and a cave like decoration for them to hide in... Rolling Eyes

Have you had the fish for long, it may be that they are still settling in. It may be worth checking on your water stats too just in case. I have neons and the tend to be all over the tank, not really on the bottom, so don't know why yours would be bottom dwellers! Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: neons...   neons... Icon_minitimeTue Jan 01, 2008 4:02 am

got them on sunday, as for water i know my PH level is 7.2 and neons apparently tolerate 6.0 - 8.0

but they are my first fish in the tank so they are probaly still setteling in.Surprised
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PostSubject: Re: neons...   neons... Icon_minitimeTue Jan 01, 2008 4:26 am

Well as long as your Ammonia, Nitrite and Nitrate are ok too (0-0- <40) then they should be ok and are probabky still acclimatising Very Happy
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