60L?

I know it may be wishful thinking but any pretty plecs (small) that would be ideal for a 60L tank? I wanted Gold Nugget but obviously tank is too small and before anyone suggests my OH didnt want me to have this tank so an upgrade is out of the question

Clown plec? They dont get bigger than 4 inchs do they?

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20070812001732AAh8sP1

^ That should help.

I'd buy a clown pleco, they seem to be tiny enough for a small tank

Read elsewhere that my tank may be too small though, although zebra plecs are slightly smaller than a clown plec. I'm in a muddle lol!!

hi phishy

just had a look at zebra plecos and i think i would go for one 3.5in in size lovely colour and very nicely marked fish they look and sound just the job.

Go and get yourself a bigger tank!

didnt u read my first post diana i said im not allowed a bigger tank before anyone suggests it lol

sorry, Thought I might be able to change your mind (plus the fact I had forgotten that bit of info!)

its not my mind that needs changing...its the bf lol!!

L199 and L046? The L046 is the zebra plec and i saw an L199 "False Zebra Plec" advsertised thats similar markings but a third of the price, but cant really find much about them? Any ideas?

Don't know about the L199 phishy.

The zebra plec though are beautiful., I saw some recently in one of my local lfs, can't remember how much they were going for as I wasn't looking to buy anything. They dont grow too big either do they?

I think when one of my BN's goes to fishy heaven that might be what I go looking at.

no bigger than 4" i dont think BUT i saw some online this afternoon at £170 each so may not be getting one of them lol!!

Lovely looking fish though!

wow £170 that is a lot of money

£170. lol that's close to 3 times what i paid for my tank
it sounds absurd
But then, that must be normal for you guys.

My friend got me a sailfin pleco (10 inches) for my birthday and later told me he'd paid 100 rupees for it (that's about £ 1.4 HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHHAHA)

a sailfin is about £3-£5 here for a baby!!(about 2 inchs) lol

I love plecs and the zebra's are brill. Might put them on my list

OK - something needs to be made clear here - the size suggested for the tank isnt always about the size of the fish - you have to think about the natural environment - some plecs need really really high oxygen levels in the tank to be happy and you wont get this in a smaller tank unless you turn it into a twintub washing machine.

Other things such as your filters and the amount of poo the fish creates needs to be considered too - most plecs are living fertilising machines - they poo as if it were an olympic event.

Also most are territorial by nature so need a larger area to be happy.

Now I had Snowball plecs which are 'small' but i wouldnt have had them in anything smaller than the tank they were in - the 185ltr

HOWEVER - im assuming your looking for a plec for an arcpod (like mine - 65ltrs) and I that Bulldog plecs (sometimes sold as rubbernose plecs) will be fine - but you need one important thing for them and it will sound funny but im serious - they will need a few larger rounded pebbles on the floor - this will be his/her territory and will spend most the day asleep - sucking on to the pebble

Zebra plecs cost hundreds of pounds - so as stupid as this will sound - have you considered a group of otos? they wont bust up the decor - will help keep the tank clean and are quite interesting once they settle in I have 4 now but had 8 at one point - my current ones must be about 3 years old now

Interesting about the round pebbles Rich. Havebnt heard that before. Do you need that for all plecs or just that particular one?

Not all plecs as far as I know - rubbernose/bulldogs just see to be 'happier' with a nice big pebble to claim - i also know they like good aeration but NOT necessarily a high flow rate

I will probably order another one when the weather is warmer for transit as my last was killed by that p@h ornament problem I had some time back

Las time i saw a bulldog plec in a shop - it was £12 - but I got mine online form that place in cornwall (forgotten name now) for £4 although it was £10 for delivery (a fish box) i did also order other fish so it still worked out cheaper

http://www.planetcatfish.com/catelog/species.php?species_id=318

they come in different co,lours and thus end up with different names but they are usually either rubbernose or bulldog plecs - of course be certain of what your getting - one of those sailfins I rescued was marked as a bulldog plec we all know how big a proper leopard sailfin grows